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Redacted Episode 5 goes inside Offline, and what it actually looks like to wire AI into sales, marketing, and project management without a big engineering team behind you. Co-founders David Shaner and Taylor Cotner each take a turn. Taylor walks through Offline's AI lead gen pipeline: a Claude-assisted Google Places script that geocoded 2,000 restaurant locations in about an hour, a deliberate move away from LLMs toward deterministic code for market geography, and the "outreach brief,"  a context document the system assembles per account before any LLM writes an email. He frames the whole thing as a trust graph, working outward from existing partners in concentric circles. He also gets specific about the human-AI handoff: how a salesperson (Steve) has to trailblaze first, and why you need specific lead-by-lead feedback instead of generalizations to actually improve the system. David then demos the B2B landing page he built entirely with Claude copy from Fathom sales call transcripts, photos pulled from an AI-tagged Google Drive library, live data from the POS back end, and a review filter that's been running for four months without anyone touching it. Taylor closes with the practical bit: after a 36-hour stretch of AI frustration, he asked Claude to audit his own chat logs for recurring failures. Claude named the output a "rage log." He curated it into a "gotcha registry" and baked it into a Claude Code hook that fires during every planning step, so the same mistakes stop happening on repeat. It's a simple technique that doesn't get talked about enough.

Timestamps:
00:00 Cold open: the rage log preview

01:02 Welcome to Redacted, Episode 5

01:50 Offline's AI lead gen pipeline

04:10 Reducing LLM usage: when code beats prompts

05:00 Geocoding 2,000 restaurants with Google Places API in ~1 hour

07:42 Building the outreach brief

09:14 What salespeople actually need before writing an email

11:46 The information a good brief assembles

14:25 Hot, warm, and cold leads defined

15:54 The B2B Hinge: visualizing your lead network

18:24 Why context-aware outreach wins in an AI-spam world

21:00 The resource-constrained case for a trust graph

23:37 The human-AI handoff: salesperson ↔ automation loop

25:00 Specifics over generalizations: how to debug a sales AI

26:22 Taylor's turn: the AI-built B2B landing page is live

28:50 Tagging Offline's photo library with AI (2,000+ images)

30:36 LLM-filtered reviews: 4 months running, never touched

33:52 Building the events page panel by panel

35:07 The Slack bot experiment: Claude as project manager

37:44 What the agent did right

39:58 Project management in the AI era: ClickUp vs. Docs

42:47 The bad AI days 

44:04 The rage log becomes the gotcha registry

45:11 How Claude Code hooks inject the registry into every plan

46:38 Compound Engineering and the Every framework

47:50 Guests coming up, wrap

Show notes from the episode: https://github.com/instanttaylor/redacted-podcast

Where to Find David:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidshaner/

Where to Find Taylor:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylorcotner/

More about Offline: https://www.linkedin.com/company/offline-media-inc-/

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